Comments on: From Running To Rest http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/ Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:40:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: chas pike http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-190 chas pike Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:19:30 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-190 tough to forge a discussion in christina circles when it pertains to the bible. i thought i should throw one more thing in here, just because there is so much going on, and so much unexamined. of course one could examine even the smallest parsha and still be pulling things out. i wont do a full introduction to the significance of the idols that were removed from laban's house, although there is a great discussion in there. instead i want to just offer up an interesting reference for your consideration gen 31: 53, the words of laban: "..may the God of abraham, the God of nahor, the God of their father judge between us". doesnt this imply a relationship between God and abraham's father, terah? and, a relationship that extends back into time. they are descended from noah, who is still alive when abram is a child. tough to forge a discussion in christina circles when it pertains to the bible. i thought i should throw one more thing in here, just because there is so much going on, and so much unexamined. of course one could examine even the smallest parsha and still be pulling things out. i wont do a full introduction to the significance of the idols that were removed from laban’s house, although there is a great discussion in there. instead i want to just offer up an interesting reference for your consideration gen 31: 53, the words of laban: “..may the God of abraham, the God of nahor, the God of their father judge between us”. doesnt this imply a relationship between God and abraham’s father, terah? and, a relationship that extends back into time. they are descended from noah, who is still alive when abram is a child.

]]> By: Steve Scott http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Steve Scott Sat, 16 Jan 2010 01:00:17 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-189 Oh, yeah. I forgot what I read in the previous day's reading. Nevermind. Oh, yeah. I forgot what I read in the previous day’s reading. Nevermind.

]]> By: chas pike http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-188 chas pike Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:08:53 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-188 i believe this is means house of israel rather than nation. the name israel was established for the first time in gen 32:28. i believe this is means house of israel rather than nation. the name israel was established for the first time in gen 32:28.

]]> By: Steve Scott http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-187 Steve Scott Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:42:00 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-187 Here's something I never noticed before. The name "Israel" was used in Gen 34:7 before Jacob was renamed Israel by God in Gen 35:10. Any ideas as to why? Alan? Here’s something I never noticed before. The name “Israel” was used in Gen 34:7 before Jacob was renamed Israel by God in Gen 35:10. Any ideas as to why? Alan?

]]> By: chas pike http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-186 chas pike Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:13:33 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-186 there is something buried here (no pun intended) which i think bears further examination; the slaughter of the shechemites. in gen 34, a marriage is arranged between hamar and dinah. jacob will only allow shechem to marry his daughter if all of the men in their tribe agree to circumcision. they agree, and while they are recovering from the ritual, the sons of jacob come into town, slaughter all of the men and take the women and children as plunder. what?? here we have the first gentiles brought into the covenant, and they are betrayed and slaughtered. this is the family who was created to be a light to the world and bring all closer to God, and the first outsiders brought into the gig are stomped out like cock roaches. i would like you to hold this story and this thought in mind, and then examine the gospel of john, chapter 4. here Jesus makes his trek from jerusalem to galilee via samaria. i know that in matthew when Jesus sends out the disciples he tells them to avoid samaria, but in john he goes there and something wonderful happens. now in john, among other things, Jesus is fulfilling the vision of amos 9:11 and is restoring david's fallen tent. later in the chapter he changes the lives of a family from herod's household, and herod is an edomite. but i get ahead of myself. samaria. Jesus goes to the well, the traditional place for the children of abraham to call out their wives. a kind of holy cruising grounds. and here Jesus calls out his bride. samaria was a part of israel, but was looked down upon by the israelites because when they were marched off into captivity by the assyrians, the assyrians miscegenated the samaritans blood line, mixing it with gentile blood. the israelites saw them as degenerate bastards unfit to associate with, and no longer part of the tribe of israel. Jesus heads into this place where no rabbi would go, and calls out his bride. here at the well, by the former city of shechem, this flock of dispossessed are the first to recognize and accept Jesus as the messiah. here at the site where the first gentiles were brought into the covenant with jacob, and then murdered, Jesus calls out his bride, and the first to recognize him and worship him for who he really is, is the samaritans. the shechemites. does this mean anything? i dont know, but aint it interesting? today's reading from matthew is interesting, too. a rabbi's system of teaching, which involved 24/7 supervision of his disciples as they learned from their master the ways of the prophets and the law, is called a yoke. so, yes we can use the image of the yoke that binds animals together to work as a team for this chapter, but dont we also have to visit this other interpretation as well? i have some stuff to say about the idols taken from laban's house, if any of you want to hear it... thanks for the food. there is something buried here (no pun intended) which i think bears further examination; the slaughter of the shechemites. in gen 34, a marriage is arranged between hamar and dinah. jacob will only allow shechem to marry his daughter if all of the men in their tribe agree to circumcision. they agree, and while they are recovering from the ritual, the sons of jacob come into town, slaughter all of the men and take the women and children as plunder. what??
here we have the first gentiles brought into the covenant, and they are betrayed and slaughtered. this is the family who was created to be a light to the world and bring all closer to God, and the first outsiders brought into the gig are stomped out like cock roaches.
i would like you to hold this story and this thought in mind, and then examine the gospel of john, chapter 4. here Jesus makes his trek from jerusalem to galilee via samaria. i know that in matthew when Jesus sends out the disciples he tells them to avoid samaria, but in john he goes there and something wonderful happens. now in john, among other things, Jesus is fulfilling the vision of amos 9:11 and is restoring david’s fallen tent. later in the chapter he changes the lives of a family from herod’s household, and herod is an edomite. but i get ahead of myself.
samaria. Jesus goes to the well, the traditional place for the children of abraham to call out their wives. a kind of holy cruising grounds. and here Jesus calls out his bride. samaria was a part of israel, but was looked down upon by the israelites because when they were marched off into captivity by the assyrians, the assyrians miscegenated the samaritans blood line, mixing it with gentile blood. the israelites saw them as degenerate bastards unfit to associate with, and no longer part of the tribe of israel. Jesus heads into this place where no rabbi would go, and calls out his bride. here at the well, by the former city of shechem, this flock of dispossessed are the first to recognize and accept Jesus as the messiah. here at the site where the first gentiles were brought into the covenant with jacob, and then murdered, Jesus calls out his bride, and the first to recognize him and worship him for who he really is, is the samaritans. the shechemites. does this mean anything? i dont know, but aint it interesting?
today’s reading from matthew is interesting, too. a rabbi’s system of teaching, which involved 24/7 supervision of his disciples as they learned from their master the ways of the prophets and the law, is called a yoke. so, yes we can use the image of the yoke that binds animals together to work as a team for this chapter, but dont we also have to visit this other interpretation as well?
i have some stuff to say about the idols taken from laban’s house, if any of you want to hear it…
thanks for the food.

]]> By: Lionel Woods http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-185 Lionel Woods Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:14:10 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-185 Hutch, Man you could be so right brother. Hutch,
Man you could be so right brother.

]]> By: Hutch http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Hutch Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:03:42 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-184 Don’t be crippled like Jacob for trying to run….maybe it is important for us to be crippled by God…I feel like over the past 3-5 years that I have been wrestling with God and that He has pinned me down and crippled me…now I know experiencially what I used to know only doctrinally that in my weakness, God’s strength is perfected in me, that in my utter dependacy on Christ, He uses me to reach and minister to those who are not impressed by my “strength”-my trying to manipulate and control the situation(s). Don’t be crippled like Jacob for trying to run….maybe it is important for us to be crippled by God…I feel like over the past 3-5 years that I have been wrestling with God and that He has pinned me down and crippled me…now I know experiencially what I used to know only doctrinally that in my weakness, God’s strength is perfected in me, that in my utter dependacy on Christ, He uses me to reach and minister to those who are not impressed by my “strength”-my trying to manipulate and control the situation(s).

]]> By: Javetta http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Javetta Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:36:51 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-182 When I was at the height of my struggle with legalism, I could not figure out why I had no peace in my relationship with God. I was "working" and not seeing any results. Even though I had been working hard, I still knew I had not done enough to be considered "righteous." I knew I had to work harder at developing a consistent prayer life, stop thinking negative thoughts about others, and do more good for the less fortunate (just to name a few). I knew what the scriptures said about my imputed righteousness, yet I did not see myself as righteous. Then one day I read this phrase, "Your righteousness has nothing to do with you and everything to do with Christ. To forge your own righteousness is to erase Christ from the scene at Calvary and make His entire life a lie." That plainly put, a light came on and I finally understood. When I was at the height of my struggle with legalism, I could not figure out why I had no peace in my relationship with God. I was “working” and not seeing any results. Even though I had been working hard, I still knew I had not done enough to be considered “righteous.” I knew I had to work harder at developing a consistent prayer life, stop thinking negative thoughts about others, and do more good for the less fortunate (just to name a few). I knew what the scriptures said about my imputed righteousness, yet I did not see myself as righteous.

Then one day I read this phrase, “Your righteousness has nothing to do with you and everything to do with Christ. To forge your own righteousness is to erase Christ from the scene at Calvary and make His entire life a lie.” That plainly put, a light came on and I finally understood.

]]> By: Hutch http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-181 Hutch Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:38:51 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-181 Make that Great post, I'm not sure what a Greta post is! Make that Great post, I’m not sure what a Greta post is!

]]> By: Hutch http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/from-running-to-rest/comment-page-1/#comment-180 Hutch Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:37:56 +0000 http://stepthruthescriptures.lionelwoods.net/?p=111#comment-180 Greta post Lionel...like Charles always says "thanks for the food". It still cracks me up when I read how Jacob situated his family by putting the wife he really wanted and his favorite son at the rear farthest away from potential danger! I also love how God put a great terror among the Canaanites so that they did not pursue and destroy Jacob and his family. In the passage from MATT's gospel, I also love how Jesus' response to the incarcerated Baptizers doubt and inquiry is for them to tell John that they have seen Jesus do the things the Messiah would do when He came Isaiah 29:18-19-19 and Isaiah 35:1-10, it is interesting that Jesus offers no other explanation to John who no doubt was puzzled that he did not see the earthly political kingdom coming about that many of the Jews were looking for...and many Christian erroneously still seek to advance today. Greta post Lionel…like Charles always says “thanks for the food”.

It still cracks me up when I read how Jacob situated his family by putting the wife he really wanted and his favorite son at the rear farthest away from potential danger!

I also love how God put a great terror among the Canaanites so that they did not pursue and destroy Jacob and his family.

In the passage from MATT’s gospel, I also love how Jesus’ response to the incarcerated Baptizers doubt and inquiry is for them to tell John that they have seen Jesus do the things the Messiah would do when He came Isaiah 29:18-19-19 and Isaiah 35:1-10, it is interesting that Jesus offers no other explanation to John who no doubt was puzzled that he did not see the earthly political kingdom coming about that many of the Jews were looking for…and many Christian erroneously still seek to advance today.

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